{"id":1487,"date":"2006-01-01T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2005-12-31T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.gereso.com\/actualites\/2006\/01\/retraite-le-calcul-des-engagements-lies-au-depart-du-salarie\/"},"modified":"2006-01-01T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2005-12-31T22:00:00","slug":"retraite-le-calcul-des-engagements-lies-au-depart-du-salarie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.gereso.com\/actualites\/2006\/01\/01\/retraite-le-calcul-des-engagements-lies-au-depart-du-salarie\/","title":{"rendered":"Retraite : le calcul des engagements li\u00e9s au d\u00e9part du salari\u00e9"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>Principe<\/h3>\n<p>Ledroit fiscal fran\u00e7ais interdit aux entreprises de provisionner dansleur compte ces engagements, hors le cas o\u00f9 elles externalisent lesfonds financiers consacr\u00e9s \u00e0 cet objet.<\/p>\n<p>Cesengagements doivent \u00eatre calcul\u00e9s et mentionn\u00e9 \u00e0 l&rsquo;annexe du bilan.Jusqu&rsquo;en 2000, \u00e0 d\u00e9faut de norme d\u00e9crivant les modalit\u00e9s de calculs deces engagements, les entreprises restaient libres de leur \u00e9valuation.<\/p>\n<h3>Des nouveaut\u00e9s avec l&rsquo;arriv\u00e9e des normes IFRS<\/h3>\n<p><b>L&rsquo;arriv\u00e9e des normes IFRS, a chang\u00e9 la donne<\/b>\u00a0: <\/p>\n<p>&#8211;\u00a0Une norme sp\u00e9cifique, <b>IAS 19 \u00ab\u00a0avantages du personnel\u00a0\u00bb<\/b> codifie pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment les m\u00e9thodes de calculs de ces engagements etimpose une liste d&rsquo;informations \u00e0 publier. Cette norme est strictementapplicable \u00e0 toutes les entreprises soumises aux IFRS.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;\u00a0Le <b>Conseil National de la Comptabilit\u00e9 \u00e0 publi\u00e9 en 2003<\/b> une recommandation qui transcrit mot \u00e0 mot cette norme et l&rsquo;impose\u00a0:<\/p>\n<li> Strictement \u00e0 toutes les entreprises de plus de 250 salari\u00e9s<\/li>\n<li> De fa\u00e7on simplifi\u00e9e pour toutes les autres.<\/li>\n<p>Cescalculs font appel aux techniques actuarielles, et selon larecommandation de la norme IAS, les entreprises recourent le plussouvent \u00e0 des Cabinets d&rsquo;Actuariat qui effectuent pour elles cescalculs assez techniques.<\/p>\n<p><b>Cettenouvelle charge constitue toutefois pour les services RH et Financiersdes entreprises un nouveau domaine sur lequel ils doivent disposerd&rsquo;une comp\u00e9tence<\/b>. Il s&rsquo;agit notamment pour eux de <b>comprendre les travaux effectu\u00e9s pour leur actuaire conseil<\/b> et de pouvoir <b>correctement n\u00e9gocier le prix de leurs interventions<\/b>.<\/p>\n<h3>\u00c0 noter<br \/><\/h3>\n<p>Les\u00e9tudes r\u00e9centes men\u00e9es sur les entreprises pass\u00e9es aux IFRS montrentque le calcul des engagements de retraite constitue le premier impactsur les comptes des entreprises\u00a0: Outre des sommes importantes, leur impact se fait directement sur les fonds propres des entreprises, en IFRS<\/p>\n<p>Auteur: Laurent GIRETTE &#8211; Consultant en retraite et pr\u00e9voyance. Il estpraticien, dipl\u00f4m\u00e9 d&rsquo;actuariat.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Principe Ledroit fiscal fran\u00e7ais interdit aux entreprises de provisionner dansleur compte ces engagements, hors le cas o\u00f9 elles externalisent lesfonds financiers consacr\u00e9s \u00e0 cet objet. 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